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H1B - Death of someone else's child.




22 Myths, Legends and Folktales
7 Unique Narratives for Motif H1B
18 Cultures & Traditions where H1B is told
25 Mythemes Indexed
6 Sub-Motifs of Motif H1B


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Ю.Е. Березкин, Е.Н. Дувакин. Тематическая классификация и распределение фольклорно-мифологических мотивов по ареалам. Аналитический каталог.



Summary of Motif

The character performs actions that lead to death, because he is indifferent to or desires the death of the child or woman loved by another character. See motif H1A.

Berezkin category: Paradise Lost

This is of motif type Cosmology and etiology and is part group 4, Origin of death, diseases and hard life


H1 has 6 other sub-motifs


H1a.  The character decides that people should die. His or her child, mother, or some other being whose life is dear to him or her dies. Now the decision-maker agrees to make people immortal, but it is impossible to change the decision that has been made.
H1b.  The character performs actions that lead to death, because he is indifferent to or desires the death of the child or woman loved by another character. See motif H1A.
H1bb.  One character refuses to resurrect another's beloved dog, and this conflict is linked to the loss of the ability to resurrect people.
H1c.  People cease to be reborn (or no longer come to the living) after the deceased is buried in the ground for the first time or someone tramples the earth on a fresh grave, preventing the deceased from rising from the grave.
H1d.  The deceased returns, but people send him back, dissatisfied with his appearance, refusing to accept him or burying him again. From then on, death is final.
H1e.  A certain character is the first to enter the world of the dead, after which all people follow the same path; he paves the way to the world of the dead; the first to die becomes the master or guardian of the afterlife.
H1f.  People learn how to treat the dead by observing the behaviour of crows.

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Top 10 Motifs with similar dispersal patterns

MotifSimilarityMotif Summary
J59D98.50%The character steps or jumps over the remains of the slain, and the latter comes back to life.
H1A97.18%The character decides that people should die. His or her child, mother, or some other being whose life is dear to him or her dies. Now the decision-maker agrees to make people immortal, but it is impossible to change the decision that has been made.
M38A94.46%On a visit, the character sees how the owner acts with magic or techniques that suit his nature (in Africa, too, deception). He imitates their actions but fails. Actions are not tests or competitions and are not related to performing feats. This is mainly getting or preparing food.
F6193.29%A male character pretends to be sick, weak, unconscious; a woman carries him on her back, he copulates or tries to copulate with her on the go.
M11C93.14%Without harming himself, a male character cuts off, pierces, roasts, holds over a fire, etc. a part of his body (or his wife's body). The character cooks the meat, fat, etc. obtained in this way and treats his guest to it. This food is not perceived as unclean (cf. motifs M11B and M38).
I11793.10%A spider or spider woman lifts a hero or heroine up to the sky, helps them descend to earth, or otherwise helps them cross the path leading to another world.
M5292.60%The character (by deception) kills an ungulates. He asks another to refresh the carcass, looks for a knife to do it, or a fire to fry the meat. The other freshens the carcass, gives fire or a knife, but takes or tries to take all the meat for himself.
M29I92.17%See the motives in square brackets.
M5191.57%One of the two characters gets meat. The weaker deceives the stronger one, hiding the meat in his absence to eat alone later.
K21A91.06%A celestial being marries an earthly woman. She longs to return to earth and secretly descends from her husband.

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This motif has been recorded in 18 traditions: Kalenjin; including Sabaot, Nandi (Nande), Arusha, Kipsigis, Pokot (Suk), Keiyo (Elgeiyo), Marakwet, Sebeei, Masai, Kerewe, Sukuma, Kwaya, Kumbi, Busiba, Gusii, Suba, Chagga (Jagga; incl Wasu), Pare, Digo, Rwanda (incl Hutu, Tutsi, Kiga), Rundi, (Ma)Shi, Banyabungu; Rega, Tswana (Chwana), Suto (Soto; incl Pedi, Mbire), Khasi, Blackfoot, Hidatsa, Lushootseed (Puget Sound: Puyallup, Nisqualmi, Snuqualmi, Duwamish, Muckleshoot, Snohomish, Skagit), Lower Chehalis, Upper Chehalis, (Lower) Cowlitz, Quinault, Kalapuya, Oregon Athabaskans: Lower Umpqua, Tututni (incl Joshua), Upper Coquille, Galice, Tolowa, Alcea, Shasta; Chimariko, Cherokee, Tubatulabal


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